Originally posted by Rookierookie at 2006-4-27 19:59:
我寧願和八兩金上床, 也不承認創造論
Originally posted by Kira.Yamato at 2006-4-27 19:59:
但我認為進化值可能是負數
Originally posted by Rookierookie at 2006-4-27 19:59:
我寧願和八兩金上床, 也不承認創造論
Originally posted by Unknown at 2006-4-27 20:02:
第一種生物點出現..?
宇宙點出現?
bao_34
Originally posted by Unknown at 2006-4-27 20:02:
第一種生物點出現..?
宇宙點出現?
bao_34
Originally posted by myfunging at 2006-4-27 20:06:
咁第一種生物係咩?
Originally posted by myfunging at 2006-4-27 20:06:
點解宜家會有咁多同一個物種但有唔同特徵既生物?
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-4-27 21:28:
支持創造論既人 就好似上面果幾位 連基本科學都唔清楚 就提出從科學觀點出發的證據反駁進化論
Originally posted by Unknown at 2006-4-27 21:42:
你講我是吧bao_35
我無反駁進化論
只係唔明白第一生物點出現Only
睇住病毒變種點反駁進化論bao_10
仲有講明係"估"..
咁你有咩高見..?
[ Last edited by Unknown on 2006-4-27 at 09:49 PM ...
Originally posted by christan at 2006-4-27 22:50:
我信進化論.....
合理好多~~~
Originally posted by [H]彈水阿給 at 2006-4-28 11:50:
進化論話某d物質(我唔知點叫好)o係機緣巧合之下合埋而變成生命,
但係即使以現今既科技都仲未可以刻意用合成物質既方法去製造生命,
因此我認為"物質o係機緣巧合之下合埋而變成生命"呢個可能性相當之低
Originally posted by [H]彈水阿給 at 2006-4-28 11:50:
進化論話某d物質(我唔知點叫好)o係機緣巧合之下合埋而變成生命,
但係即使以現今既科技都仲未可以刻意用合成物質既方法去製造生命,
因此我認為"物質o係機緣巧合之下合埋而變成生命"呢個可能性相當之低
Originally posted by BRIAN422 at 2006-4-28 11:33:
合理何解?
進化前既所有都係由現在推測過去....
真係有合理既證據 雖然呢個地球每一樣野就算依家岩
好可能下一秒就被推翻
進化 都要有人做一樣出黎先可以
細胞都需要...一部電腦 唔會係由d廢鐵係地下慢慢變 ...
Originally posted by .•Hung▊鴻 at 2006-4-28 23:01:
智慧設計論比呢2種理論更好...
[ Last edited by .•Hung▊鴻 on 2006-4-28 at 11:05 PM ]
Originally posted by albie at 2006-4-29 00:01:
何謂智慧設計論?
我覺得兩個論更本冇抵觸,
以我所理解,
進化論係由sexual reproduction中的基因變異,
所進化不同種類的organism,
但係最原始ge時候,都需要有人"創造",
先有得進化, ...
Originally posted by .•Hung▊鴻 at 2006-4-29 00:25:
自己慢慢睇
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
Originally posted by 殘龍 at 2006-4-29 11:05:
兩個都係理論
進化論是一種理論,它是經過觀察現有環境,然後再提出假設及理論,
但過程中,並不能作驗證,因為人不能再一次返回過去,去再一次觀察,或作比較實驗,
去結論人一定及唯一是由進化論中提及是由人 ...
Originally posted by ☆基路亞∼洛樂 at 2006-4-29 13:02:
雖然唔能夠返回過去,但係進化論的基本理論都是實實在在的,
是經過驗證化石或古物得來的,正如歷史一樣,現代人不能返回過去,
但透過古物,文獻同樣能找出事物的根源,這些都是有根有據的
Originally posted by ☆基路亞∼洛樂 at 2006-4-29 13:02:
雖然唔能夠返回過去,但係進化論的基本理論都是實實在在的,
是經過驗證化石或古物得來的,正如歷史一樣,現代人不能返回過去,
但透過古物,文獻同樣能找出事物的根源,這些都是有根有據的
Originally posted by 白~忌廉 at 2006-4-30 01:36:
點解整個太陽系得地球才有生物?
其實 其他星球不是可出現能適應 該地環境的生物嗎?
我應為生物的出現是由創世主來創造 不然地球有生物為何其他星球冇呢
進化論是指生物為了適應環境和生境而改自己的結構(進化 ...
Originally posted by 殘龍 at 2006-4-29 21:13:
今日,由大學的講師到街中的小孩(我不是說小孩無知,他日小朋將成大器呢),
都口裡說著進化論,但又有多少人知,進化論-又是一什麼的一回事?
進化論這一詞,是由達爾文發揚光大的,在他之前,也有不少理論與 ...
Originally posted by christan at 2006-4-27 22:50:
我信進化論.....
合理好多~~~
這帖子是由 衛宮士郎 管理人員從 =新聞時事區= 版塊移動到 =學術區= 版塊的
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-1 11:36:
第1,先提出進化論的達爾文 自己本身最後都推反自己個論!!!why???
第2,很多人說進化論,e.g 古代星星進化人....但係目前找出的古代星星殘骸,只有開頭2,3種...但科學家認為星星進化到人,當中涉及約十種進化型 ...
Originally posted by Zend at 2006-5-1 11:40:
第3,現今世界,,近乎99.9% 的物質,貝後都有個一個處理者/生產者/創造者 e.g 錶後邊有個製造者......
那作為人類,自然好奇創造者是如何來的
如果世界上gum多野都有個生產者
那個生產者點解無啦啦存在?
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-1 11:49:
聖經已說是神是自有永有......正如螞蟻眼中沒有3d 一樣,,他都是不信有3d 的,,但現實有沒有呢???
而且聖經上所說很多的歷史已是事實!!! 羅亞方舟 已不是神話!!!大紅水浸過大地,,在世界每處高山上都有留下線 ...
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-1 11:36:
第1,先提出進化論的達爾文 自己本身最後都推反自己個論!why?
第2,很多人說進化論,e.g 古代星星進化人....但係目前找出的古代星星殘骸,只有開頭2,3種...但科學家認為星星進化到人,當中涉及約十種進化型態,,,,,咁中間果d型態點解e家仲未發現呢
第3,現今世界,,近乎99.9% 的物質,貝後都有個一個處理者/生產者/創造者 e.g 錶後邊有個製造者......
究竟世界的第1 是何來呢,,,,如果我們想有神,,他指出是自有永有,,我們當然是有懷疑,但不是沒有可能的......e.g同樣因為在螞蟻眼眼中只有2d無3d,,,,但世上係咪真係無3d 呢?<<<
Originally posted by wakakahaha at 2006-5-1 13:08:
創造論有咩証據?
但進化論有化石為証
Originally posted by wakakahaha at 2006-5-1 13:08:
創造論有咩証據?
但進化論有化石為証
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-1 13:12:
創造論既証據就係神 拿 我見到上帝呀 噢 我信啦
Originally posted by Zend at 2006-5-1 13:22:
創造論的正確係利用心理
即係話背後有個creator存在
但沒有證據顯示我地係被佢創造的
好似Darwin所說,時間可以證明一切吧~
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-1 13:00:
1)任何理論都有錯漏 達爾文對自已的理論提出質疑並唔代表係推翻
2)至今考古學家已發掘左4千具智人,直立人...等等的化石
3)你第三項並無提出任何論據 所以不成立
Originally posted by wakakahaha at 2006-5-1 13:41:
非常有力-.-.........
佢地假設左所有野都有製造者
其實未必
照這個假設,神都應有一個大神製造佢,大神就有一個巨神......
[ Last edited by wakakahaha on 2006-5-1 at 01:43 PM ]
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-2 14:07:
1) 佢係自己推番左話不存在,如果理論有錯漏 就不成立,,你連咁間單基本的科學理論都搞唔清
難怪你的理論出現大大錯漏
2)你跟本唔明我講咩,,E家唔係話多多少少,,而係型態上問題....請你看清楚/回校問SIR吧
我是說由古代生物進化到人型,,一定要經過起碼十種型態,,,而現今科學家只找出頭3-4種和最後的幾種型態,,,哪中間的去了哪,,再重複一次,,不是數目上的問題!
Originally posted by 新之助 at 2006-5-2 19:50:
從古自今 有冇人發現到猿人骸骨??
而進化論提出人類係由猿人進化而成??
由此已經知道進化論被推翻
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-2 14:07:
1) 佢係自己推番左話不存在,如果理論有錯漏 就不成立,,你連咁間單基本的科學理論都搞唔清
難怪你的理論出現大大錯漏 !!
2)你跟本唔明我講咩,,E家唔係話多多少少,,而係型態上問題....!!請你看清楚/回校 ...
Originally posted by wakakahaha at 2006-5-2 22:26:
你的意思是神自己造自己?
由無到有
自己本來就不存在
如何製造出自己bao_26
很明顯是矛盾
Originally posted by wakakahaha at 2006-5-2 22:26:
你的意思是神自己造自己?
由無到有
自己本來就不存在
如何製造出自己bao_26
很明顯是矛盾
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-2 20:14:
唉 真可憐,無知的幼稚園學生 連創造論的人都認同科學家找到古代猿人,直立人骸骨
你真係無知到令我同情你
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-2 19:42:
1)我睇過詳細資料 佢當時係有質疑 而且的確漏口講左進化論是錯 不過之後改番口 因為想通了
而當時令他苦腦的 就是如何把物種的特點傳落下一代 現在的基因學已經證明這個問題根本不是問題
2)型態太約分了幾種 ...
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-3 10:05:
一句話就講哂,,自有永有,,,神是不會給製造的,,正如能量是不能給創造
E=mc(2)
聖經說 神在第x天創造光和暗和空間!
根據相對論,,m=質量 和 c 是光速光
如果如創造一個質間和光暗,,一定要一股極大能 ...
Originally posted by Zend at 2006-5-3 10:39:
考完英文先罵戰啦=="
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-3 10:05:
一句話就講哂,,自有永有,,,神是不會給製造的,,正如能量是不能給創造
E=mc(2)
聖經說 神在第x天創造光和暗和空間!
根據相對論,,m=質量 和 c 是光速光
如果如創造一個質間和光暗,,一定要一股極大能 ...
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-3 17:19:
咁你果10種分辦係咩?
Originally posted by 甚麼 at 2006-5-3 17:51:
http://www.chick.com/zh/b5/reading/tracts/0374/0374_01.asp
Originally posted by 白帝 at 2006-5-4 09:26:
The color of feathers of peacock could be used to protect themselves from being caught by predators, however, it is believed that this is not the only usage of the color of feathers of peacock. In ...
Originally posted by 白帝 at 2006-5-4 09:26:
The color of feathers of peacock could be used to protect themselves from being caught by predators, however, it is believed that this is not the only usage of the color of feathers of peacock. In order to survive, beside themselves have to survive, another important factor is that they have to ensure that their genes could be inherited, to achieve this, some may develop distinct feather color, for example, bright white, that is the case of white peacock. And survival is not the matter of simply one generation, or present generation, the more important is the matter of how to inherit their genes of offspring.Evolution is probably due to mutation of DNA. So, first, some of the evolution may not due to the environmental advantages, but because of accidental mutation, and if teh mutation could be fixed in the population, then a new species could therefore be created. And in case of protists, they could survive well is the fact, but species derived from them could survive well is also the fact. As I have said, evolution is due to mutations, and some mutations without any advantage would be negative selected by natural selection, thus we could not say the evolutions of protists are utterly useless, and need not to do so.
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-5 09:33:
我唸,,如果一開始有創造論,,之後就是不受設計者的局限,,出現演化論令生物慢慢改變,,都比較合理
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-5 11:46:
的確 我細個都係咁諗 但係大過啦 清楚宗教的意義 除了內頭導人向善的教條外其它通通都是廢話
又何來神
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-5 13:33:
你清楚的是什麼教的定義??= =
基督徒先以信為基礎....我信了,人生都會改變,,你先試試信吧!!!
什麼廢話我就沒有怎聽過,,只是知道信了有何不好,,,得到永生
而且看的事物都唔同哂.....
信左先,,又唔 ...
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-5 14:21:
我唔相信天堂,唔相信上帝 就正如你唔相信進化論一樣 點解你唔相進化論 信左會死?
唔相信天堂,唔相信上帝,但我相信基督教的確係導人向善
但係一沉迷落去 就會變得極端 好似有人講出D幾十億年既化石係撒旦做出 ...
極端的意念我還沒有,,在真實的情況下都是沒有的
是誰告訴你?根本就是不像回教....= ='' 很好奇你是從哪裡聽回來
我相信你不信你原因我都沒有聽過...什麼化石
我唔信進化論,,1->因為有很多反對的原因和事實....但聖經所說的寓言都一一證實
在歷史上很多都有記載......如果沒有看過聖經而迷信上帝當然是不對的行為...但信還信,,迷信還迷信
而且我覺得進化論當中有d 係可信的..不過一開始是應有一位設計者創造世界的...2->因為否則就沒有其他可言了.....
3->連愛因斯旦 都信....為何不試呢...而且你所知道的,,並不是真正的基督徒,,,你一開始就給誤導..難怪你會不信...試試吧
4->而且我信左上帝,,我還會信進化論是世界的起初?信左是不會死,,但如果我2樣一齊信,,咁就真係迷信而不明白清楚基督徒的意思
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-5 18:49:
又黎.....
上面其中一條粉腸唔好轉載我講既野又唔加名
1->
即管提出,我盡可能解答
我諗你唔信唔係因為事實,事實只係幫你加強一種觀念
部份立場都係建基於信念,你唔信,比幾多事實你都好難信
除非你 ...
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-5 16:16:
我唔信進化論,,因為有很多反對的原因和事實....但聖經所說的寓言都一一證實
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-6 03:28:
小門別生氣bao_40
你呼吸 科學解釋到 你進食 科學解釋到
你老時身體機能衰退 科學解釋到 上太空 靠科學做到...........
科學能解釋一切 科學並不是因人而生 科學理論自古長存
而宗教是因人而生 滿足心中空 ...
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 10:38:
最終胡扯絕技.......
1.不見得我看到神
2.詳看霍金等著作
3.我讀書十幾年基督教學校,聖經睇到厭
about愛恩斯坦信念
http://julian_yeung.tripod.com/collection/cfaq/g3.html
4.對不起, ...
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-6 11:28:
小門別生氣bao_40
你呼吸 科學解釋到 你進食 科學解釋到
你老時身體機能衰退 科學解釋到 上太空 靠科學做到...........
科學能解釋一切 科學並不是因人而生 科學理論自古長存
而宗教是因人而生 滿足心中空 ...
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-6 11:55:
呢個更加胡扯,我只能講句,演化係無意識地進行 >>難道是不好的,,都會進化下去?.
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 12:30:
溫馨小提示,我未教到演化論
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-5 16:16:
連愛因斯旦 都信....為何不試呢...而且你所知道的,,並不是真正的基督徒,,,你一開始就給誤導..難怪你會不信...試試吧
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-6 12:32:
想知既話 上yahoo呀打神創論式者進化論都一大堆資料睇 唔洗教都會知(只要你想知)
無知者唔好再自暴其短
[ Last edited by 呵呵^^(精銳左) on 2006-5-6 at 12:33 PM ]
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 12:36:
我係睇書加參與無數網上辯論學番黎
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-6 11:28:
小門別生氣bao_40
你呼吸 科學解釋到 你進食 科學解釋到
你老時身體機能衰退 科學解釋到 上太空 靠科學做到...........
科學能解釋一切 科學並不是因人而生 科學理論自古長存
而宗教是因人而生 滿足心中空 ...
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 12:36:
我係睇書加參與無數網上辯論學番黎
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-6 13:07:
你亂講一次黎聽下
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-6 13:07:
唉....真的想叫你先看看聖經才說吧!!!!
寓言以色例 復國等咁大單野,,你亂講一次黎聽下,,,你咁講只會引起基督徒的公憤,,,如果你唔信,,就試下post出去!!!
仲有,,,e家唔係是但一樣中咁簡單,,,係樣樣都中先 ...
咁我地e家討論緊,,同時增加緊你對進化同創造的知識...都唔錯wo
不過信和不信都是看人心姐,,好多野科學都係證明唔到的,,so..信自在人心
咁大個宇宙...一個咁少地球,,太陽,,,什致人...........究竟是何來
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 13:15:
如果寓言唔加時間,永遠唔會係錯
Originally posted by 呵呵^^(精銳左) at 2006-5-6 13:13:
你有一日會死?我講中wo 我係神的使者呀
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 13:15:
如果寓言唔加時間,永遠唔會係錯
你所講既野我都唔知聽過幾多次
對於演化同創造我可能仲熟過你
[ Last edited by 小門 on 2006-5-6 at 01:16 PM ]
Originally posted by 卍西門卍 at 2006-5-6 13:22:
容許我說一句.....................
這不是宗教討論, 唔該放低曬所有宗教既觀念, 你既說話,全部都係由你所擁有既宗教觀念出發,
神造世人 既觀念 去淆呢個 進化論, 係冇結果的, 理性分析
如果我冇記 ...
Originally posted by 卍西門卍 at 2006-5-6 13:28:
對,佛教都有神創論類似的東西
Originally posted by 小門 at 2006-5-6 13:27:
神創論不一定要聖經的理論
那傢伙自以為是以為神創論就是聖經的理論?
Originally posted by 卍西門卍 at 2006-5-6 13:28:
對,佛教都有神創論類似的東西
Originally posted by 骨奴 at 2006-5-6 13:33:
只是拿聖經來證明某點論點姐...而且你的不一定,,之係當中都有需要啦!!
那傢伙自以為是拿一些第2手資料的書信來證明
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